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Monday, August 29, 2005

A rare warning - Avoid 1and1.com web hosting

UPDATE 8/30/05: As of this morning, my logfiles have been restored, including the logfiles for the past 6 days. Tech support had originally told me these would be lost. I have received no notification of what happened. -- Douglas

Regular readers will note that it is a rare occasion when I warn you away from any book, software or vendor, unless I believe there is a danger of it costing you money or reputation. Unfortunately, this is one of those times.

I moved to 1and1.com web hosting a few months ago after requesting recommendation from friends and peers. I needed a bigger monthly bandwidth allotment due to the growing popularity of my podcast, Career Opportunities. Additionally, after a month or so with them, I set up sites for several clients. Over the last 2-3 weeks, though, I have become very dissatisfied with their service.

The first issue was a small, but annoying, difficulty in setting up my custom 404 error page. The welchwrite.com domain hosts a variety of information on everything from high-tech careers to gardening to photos. I set up a custom error page that allows users to do a search of the entire web site or click a link to go to each of the major sections. After attempting to set up this page myself, and reading the FAQs, I contacted the 1and1 technical support line. After several emails and calls, including getting incorrect information on setting up the page (I am using their MS IIS hosting plan, not Linux, but they told me on numerous occasions to set up an htaccess file) I finally got someone on the phone the seemed to know what they were doing. Unfortunately, they made the problem worse. Now, instead of the default IIS error page, or my custom error page, users simply get a message 'The file specified could not be found." Now, the default IIS error page is fairly useless in itself, but it is certainly better than this.

A week or so later, I set up a client on the 1and1 Exchange hosting platform. This is a critical need as the client's email server had crashed beyond repair and they critically needed to restore their email services. After working my way through a relatively complicated setup procedure I had everyone working. With days, though, 1and 1 suffered a 12-14 hour outage on their Exchange servers. As you might imagine, this client was quite concerned and their displeasure was not limited to 1and1, but also to myself, who recommended the company. Mail was restored, though, and seems to be working fine at this time.

Then, when the client wanted to add web hosting services to their contract with 1and1 we discovered an entirely new problem. Initially I was told that I would have to destroy and re-create all the current Exchange accounts in order to move the domain names from the Exchange servers to the web hosting servers. This was, of course, unacceptable due to down time and the potential for lost mail, so I escalated the issue to a supervisor. Luckily, he was able to direct me to a, quite cumbersome, procedure, that would allow me to move the domains without totally destroying the Exchange mailboxes. As I was working through the process, though, I eventually discovered that I would have to setup the Exchange accounts all over again, even though I did not lose the existing email.

Finally, as a podcaster, and as a podcaster who recently started accepting advertising, my web site statistics are very important to me. In fact, I get paid for my advertising directly in relation to the number of times my podcasts are downloaded. You can imagine my dismay when I discovered that on August 23 that all logfiles for my web site (and other MS IIS hosted sites at 1and1.com) stopped. Despite a number of phone calls and support emails I have not been given any information when these logfiles might be restored, although I have received, rather vague, mentions from the support techs that there was indeed a problem on their end.

As this is taking money directly out of my pocket, it seems my only recourse at this time is to move my site, yet again, to another web host and hope that their service and support are of a higher quality. I am terribly disappointed with 1and1.com service and support and wonder if their ubiquitous advertising in many major tech publications has led them to grow faster than they can support.

Barring an immediate and satisfactory resolution of these problems, and some explanation of their sub-standard service, I advise you to avoid 1and1.com hosting services.

Please send me your recommendations for web hosting services that provide MS IIS hosting services (I have a few small ASP programs on the site) and a large monthly bandwidth allocation (I current have 25 GB/month). Podcasting is a tremendous user of bandwidth. Please leave your recommendation ass comments to this post, so that others can benefit from your experience, as well. I would also like to hear about your experiences, good and bad, with 1and1.com hosting or any methods that might assist me in resolving my problems.

8 Comments:

At 10:17 AM, Anonymous Marc said...

Hi Douglas,

Sorry to hear that you're having such an unsatisfying time with your Web Hosting provider.

I'm sending you this message more as a show of support than to offer you an alternative you'll find acceptable as my Web Hosting provider (www.powweb.com) only provides UNIX solutions (I just checked to see if they'd expanded their offerings to include IIS but, alas, not yet).

But if you decide to "cross over" their low monthly cost ($8 / month) and high bandwidth (10 GBytes / Day) plus a decent user community forum and some evidence that they are more than just the proverbial "server in a teenager's basement" are why I went with them in the first place.

Good luck with your search - I hope somebody can recommend an IIS solution for you!

Marc

P.S. I love your podcast and have been listening to it for many months now

 
At 6:57 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello,

I too host with 1and1 (although with .co.uk) and see you still are too

I've discovered a problem with the formmail.pl script for submitting forms.
If your visitor is using the Opera browser and has referrer logging turned
off or has any other referrer blocking going on via their network or
antivirus software, it is impossible to submit a form on the web.

I've contacted 1and1, but they are being unhelpful, see the note below:

[quote]
Unfortunately it looks like it's a problem with the form being browser
specific. If it works with all the other browsers and with opera when
referrer logging is enabled then generally that means it's not a problem
with our servers. Even if it was a problem with our servers, you are on a
shared hosting plan and we won't change the settings for our servers for
shared hosting plans as it affects all users on your server. The only way
around that would be to get your own server and configure it yourself.
[/quote]

I just thought you might like to know, if you ever want to explain the 403
errors in your web logs, and in case you want to put a warning on any form you may be using with formmail.pl

If you want any more details, please don't hesitate to contact me.
Alternatively, if many people who host with 1and1 actually press them to fix
this, maybe they might do it.

Thanks for taking the time to read this.

Anthony Wieser
Wieser Software Ltd

 
At 8:14 AM, Blogger Chris said...

Hi

I understand your ill-feeling towards 1&1. I actually cancelled my .info domains BEFORE they were due to be billed. BUT! 1&1 still billed me!

I screamed 'FRAUD' and managed to prevent them from taking money from my bank account.

Now I have set-up a website to expose 1&1's 'free' .info offer scam, and to raise awareness of other faults with the company.

Please visit: www.thebleedingobvious.com to see what is happening.

Also consider writing to the Office of Fair Trading. They will be interested in any unfair Terms of Contract (http://www.oft.gov.uk).

Also think about contacting your local Trading Standards office (a directory of UK offices can be seen at: http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/)

Regards, Chris H.

 
At 8:14 AM, Blogger Chris said...

Hi

I understand your ill-feeling towards 1&1. I actually cancelled my .info domains BEFORE they were due to be billed. BUT! 1&1 still billed me!

I screamed 'FRAUD' and managed to prevent them from taking money from my bank account.

Now I have set-up a website to expose 1&1's 'free' .info offer scam, and to raise awareness of other faults with the company.

Please visit: www.thebleedingobvious.com to see what is happening.

Also consider writing to the Office of Fair Trading. They will be interested in any unfair Terms of Contract (http://www.oft.gov.uk).

Also think about contacting your local Trading Standards office (a directory of UK offices can be seen at: http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/)

Regards, Chris H.

 
At 4:58 AM, Blogger SusanMC5 said...

Hi, this is mostly for Chris re: 1&1's deceptive 'free .info' offer (sorry to original blogger if this is inappropriate--I'm brand new to this blogging thing)

1&1 recently (early~mid-Jan 2006) offered 'free .info's', but even though my original order (printed out, thankfully) showed $0.00 amounts for several .info's, the invoice they emailed several days later showed that they had actually Charged full price for those supposedly 'free' .info's. Only after emailing & then calling their billing dept did someone finally provide a refund (I'm assuming they've actually done that!).

But I had also placed a few add'l orders for domains during the days that followed--but prior to receiving the higher invoice amount. And each order clearly showed I was continuing to get a few free .info's & the total amount on each of those orders reflected it. But then again, when they emailed me invoices days later--each one instead showed a higher amount than my original orders!

That seems clearly deceptive, misleading, & fraudulent.

It's like buying something at a store with credit card, getting a receipt, then finding out later that the store (for it's own reasons supposedly justified due to some small print somewhere in the store) has actually charged you More than you expected & More than your receipt shows!

I just tried going to Chris's site: www.thebleedingobvious.com for see what was going on, but it appears his site is under construction.. :(

 
At 5:02 AM, Blogger SusanMC5 said...

Meant to add that I'll try to post some info on this matter at my website:
http://notheresistor.com if anyone is interested..

 
At 1:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

For just a second I was a client of 1and1 but the process was so rediculous that I never transfered my domain and ran away very fast. I now have a friend that has been locked out what appears to be an expired credit card. Support says one thing, billing another.

Seems to be a common theme so I did a little digging to find out who people can talk to.

1and1 is owned by United Internet a publicly traded company in Germany. The CEO is Ralph Dommermuth. The director of Online Sales is Joshua Sloan.

I sent Mr. Sloan an email today asking if it was ok to post his address and phone number so customers can contact him to get matters straight. I'm sure he won't mind. With a little SEO slight of hand this information can be everywhere. I'm they won't mind.

I have found publicly traded companies sometimes only care about the price of their stock. Effect them with bad press on every page of search engines and there will be an effect.

Sometimes being a private investigator has advantages.

 
At 9:29 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

1and 1.com is the worst I have ever seen. Don't do business with them.

BBB has rating of F.
http://www.dc.bbb.org/report.html?national=Y&compid=1040770#Ratings

 

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